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Julianne Werlin's avatar

Thanks for this post. I've been thinking about this a lot, especially w/r/t the civics programs at UNC and Florida. I don't like the odds of the great books model, but as a humanist I'm not sure what else there is that offers any kind of a path forward. Even scientists at elite universities should get behind whatever keeps the liberal arts model in play--if the universities shifted to a wholly workforce alignment model, the institutions would become very different, in ways many of them wouldn't like. (Most of my colleagues in the sciences do get this. Not all, but most.)

I've also been thinking about whether a great books model can be used across the ideological spectrum. I've been talking with some of my medieval-Renaissance colleagues about how we need something of the kind. Anchored in a sense of the deep intellectual, social, and personal value of reading literary and philosophical masterpieces, but with an expanded canon and without a conservative Christian or nationalist orientation. Basically what I got as an undergraduate at The University of Chicago. Is there an appetite for that today or would it just please no one, aside from Renaissance scholars and the occasional Substacker? That's what I'm trying to figure out!

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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

I am going to bet on workforce alignment, just because it is a more populist project and this is a populist moment. The Western Civ nostalgists don't really have a clear message about just *who* they want their "classical" education to be for. But back when (something more like) their vision held greater sway, the percentage of people who even went to college at all was much smaller. I suspect that some of the nostalgists more or less secretly want to restore that exclusivity, while others just have not reckoned with what it would take to make the "classical" vision scale to the masses.

In any case, the natural audience for "down with DEI, back to the Great Books" is much smaller than that for "down with DEI, teach people real stuff so they can get a real job" and I think the incentives that creates are probably too powerful to resist.

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