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Rob Nelson's avatar

I agree that a little empirical research would go a long way. What's out there is largely lefty anger about managerialism and righty anger about navel-gazing lefties not getting with the program.

I'm intrigued by what's going on at UT with course-level outcomes that are developed by the faculty, basically in answer to the question, what will students who pass your course learn to do? The idea is that the students have those course outcomes in their back pocket to trot out to employers or parents or whoever who want to know what they know how to do. So, instead of a credential, students have information to support their own understanding of the social value of their educational experiences.

Will employers care to ask students about the social value of their educational experiences? Maybe not, but maybe those who invest in an actual process of learning about their job applicants will find this useful.

Wes's avatar

I don't understand the claim that firms have no incentive to tell universities what skills they want and would prefer to gripe to politicians

My experience is that professors largely know the missing skills but don't care. "I teach you principles and how to learn"

And industry screams about what they need loudly and often

Specifically, industry has spent 30 years saying that Computer Science grads should be able to write professional software. Despite that, many graduates manage to never even use source control. This is changing one funeral at a time, luckily

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